Zacharias 's posts with tag: mp3
Another very good freeware, shell extension trans coder, offering many modes and codecs for only transcoding ! IU found this program from Lifehacker and Freeware genius sites as for both of them seems their favorite Here instead of making a review I will just notice the facts after several hours of transcoding At first the program is quite complex as it offers: -A pane with the files to be transcoded -Left bottom window offering -some generic adjustments including decoder , encoder , channel and gain -Plugins (in the new version ) that includes several decoders (including mp3 pro ) -Start and end positions -Tag transferring engine with the ability to output fiel name based on the ID tags -Output folder options -Right bottom window offering all codecs available : Lame , Ogg vorbis , Nero , AAC, CT AAC 3#GP AAC,WMA,Helix MP3 < Frauhofer IIS MP3 , MUsepack .Speex, AMR ,FFmpg ,WAVpack ,FAC ,TTZ,AAC lossless , Optimfrog , PCM ,Stream dumper and CLI
I think that most of these codecs are useless so I till be involved here with the most interesting: - There are 4 codecs for AAC /MP4 namely Nero's , FAAC ,CT AAC + and 3GP . testing two editions of this program , in the first edition only CT AAC and Nero codecs worked in full . The FAAC produces error and 3gp codec could not find a dll (ct-libisomedia.dll) in the older version I used . But the newer version does not produce any errors on the 3gp , but the FAAC still produces showing an error code 012 - CT AAC and Nero : the only codecs that worked properly for the AAC and MP4 formats. Some more experimentation shown that on the same rate , MP4 wins in fidelity over simple AAC. But using AAC+ version goes same level with MP4 in audio quality (in audibility terms not spectrum ) - 3GP AAC .In both codecs the quality drops very much on in between 21 and 24 kbit in between 8.5 and 19 kHz !! - Slider for Vorbis comes to all range in CBR, ie by a step of 1 . Using it below 30 kb in ABR he codec denies working The Vorbis codec as most of the other of same type (AAC , Nero etc ) do not work work with WAV files . MP3 files for example are pretty OK There are also 3 codecs for MP3 conversion namely Lame , Fraunhofer and Helix. Here are some measurements and results: - Lame codec uses possibly the classical 3.97 version but with `truncated' options comparing plugin used in Bonkenc. It shows only the most basic options ie ABR/VBR , several standard presets together with the `settings' and the channels I have used it once with the older version of the program for re-compressing a collection of ca 90 mp3s to a lower bit rate . I don't know why but part of these mp3s were truncated especially on the end : notice that the original files were on VBR format Little spectrum analysis shown that the fidelity is not the same as with Bonkec's facilities : The sperctrum goes shorter than of Bonk's - Fraunhofer : they are possibly using the old codec. Though the slider can be used for the full range with a step of 1 kb , the codec only works for the standard formats - Helix MP3 once developed from Xing is more recently an open source from Real Networks and offered from helixcomunity.org It works OK in most modes above the rate of 86 kb but only on the standard rates , or error code is shown . Cant be used below 96 kbit , is not better than Lame , in either case , ( it's audio spectrum is shorter than Lame's as the most compressions go to 16 kHz ) and though the results can be played in Winamp and audacity can't be played in Cooledit - Windows Media : spectrum analysis (with re-decode to wav !) shown for 48/44 to be on 12 khz instead of 22 kHz using on MMJB 7 , ie still lower quality .. Although the analysis shown linear response -Ther is also a FFMPeg engine that converts into WMA v2 /V1 and MP2 But the quality of the encoded WMA though of 44 kHz was very very artificial - I did not used the other codecs as I wa not so much interested in. (and neither know how to use and play them..) Most of the problems above appear to be solved a bit with the newer version 0.6.1 b 4060 that also offers adjustable command line interface Also this newer version offers 1. Gadgets , ie small windows that offer ready solutions for several electronic gadgets . It seems that is not working properly as the program somtimes crashed 2 . Special plug ins I found several flaws of the newer version : experimentation between transcodings as eg from mp3 to aac then pcm hen back to mp3 and doing the same process over and over , the CLI line loses its info If something goes wrong the program stops abruptly
BLADE ENCThis is a plugin offered from the program's web site as ' optional ' . I have also installed it for testing Blade is one of the oldest freeware converters but with closed coding although recently ity has been open source . The version used is 0.94  As you may see the codec configuration is very simple . Just the bitrate and some basic adjustments with also separate channel encoding (the dual channel) Bitrates are standard with 32, 48 , 56 , 64 , 80-, 96 , 128 192 224 256 and 320 being the highest Here are the measurements with BLAde CD WAV b/W 320 14.19 12.9 22kHz 6.87 192 15,87!! 13.12 22 kHz 6.62 128 17.81!! 16.06 16 kHz /peak 800 Hz 96 18.53 16.75 -7 db<2.4k ,-4<16k,-42>16 48 18.46 16.77 -40<2.6, -17<-5, 7.5-16> -7.5
The first column is ripping time from CD of a song of 2,26 mins Secoind columns from the WAV ripped song b/w is the measured bandwitdth in terms of db and kHz in plain text . though it can sound too technical will be analsyzed a bit below. MY comments: As shown above the ripping times are slightly increased as far as the bitrates are lowered! For me its is quite incommon but it is posibly the problem with the coder For the bandwidth measurements , 192 and 320 are OK as a 'store format' 128 means Hi quality FM format with a peak of the tone LA 96 : everything below the speaker's voice is truncated leaving just the trebles to be heard . testing one song converted from 128 to 96 , the sound was quite 'plastic' 48 : the spectrogram showed a stair shaped drawing , meaning that the 'higher tones have higher audio level ' . in plain language it means that there is no bass and the trebles have a bad mood. A song cannot be heard properly in this mode OGG VORBIS The ogg vorbis format , though i have rread somewhere is much more xcomplex thanthe standard MP3 format seems here to be in a oversimlified adjustments As is quite known , ogg vorbis offers quite better audio then MP3 (at least for the FhG fastenc codec ) thogh from my measuremenrs below the new LAME goes a little better !  and  As shown in the two ictures above the adjustmsnt are very simple and seem tobe very clse to the LAME format And here are my measurementsga OGG from the above WAV saved file of 2.26 mins A192 1.20.30A126 1.30.66A065 1.30.38V0.6 18.74!!!v0.4 19.59v0.2 20.53v0! 20,53v-1.9 21.25as in result , the average bitrates require neartly the half time of the song, whnile the variable bit rates are quite fast and increase slightly with the decrease of the variation level And here are the bandwidth results from various bitrates qith the seocnd way of processing: WAV file > Ogg then ogg> wav out for spectral analysis on cooledit A 192 22k linearA 126 18K1 slightly curved up as above 8 kHzby 3dbA 64 15k curved after 6Kto 0 on 15 kHz-- V0.6 22k linearv0.3 17k slightly curved up as above 8 kHzby 3dbv0.1 16kv0 15k2 curved after 6Kto 0 on 15 kHz (as A64)v-0.9! 15 curved after 6Kto 0 on 15 kHz,rippled 11- 15 (A48 same )From the abovee the latest vorbis encoder ofers slighly less spectrum then the lame on the highest fidelity ! But from the resulted adio even on the 45 /v-0.9 is very clear in contrast to the same bitrate of LAme that had artifacts FAAC the freeware converter for AAC and MP4 In the reality AAC and MP4 are exactly the same!  As you wil see there is noting special with this converter . It used a CBR rating per channel though the file sizes are always the same for 8 - 48 kbps in my tests. It did happena also to converrt files of dferent sizes IN conrtast the VBR levels shown a difenrence in the file sizes for the 1 min noise bering 1.42MB for the 100% dropping 967KB (as 128 for MP3 ) for the 42% and 448KB (64kb MP3 size) for the 10% with obvious audio artifacts  And here is nothing special except for the object type . Thw main and low options are very fast , but the LTP (Long Term Prediction) is very slow , upto 4 times For more info on this format you may look at : http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=AAC FLAC
Ands another codec with lossless AAC The amin site for FLAC describes it this way : FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec, an audio format similar to MP3, but lossless, meaning that audio is compressed in FLAC without any loss in quality. This is similar to how Zip works, except with FLAC you will get much better compression because it is designed specifically for audio, and you can play back compressed FLAC files in your favorite player (or your car or home stereo, see supported devices) just like you would an MP3 file.  As shwon above , the FLAC converter uses several presets and two stereo modes the standard joint stereo and the non standard 'adaptive' The presets are between the fastest and the best compression in 8 steps total Sizes come between 9.76 and 9.84 MB for the preset 8 and 1 . The times to convert a 4 min noise WAV file are: 19 secs for the best compression or 4.75 sec per MB resulting to 40.942.070 Bytes 7.93 secs per MB for the festest or 1.98 secs resulting to 41287186 BYtes Original WAV noise file is 42336044 BYtes Another experiment : A song of 3.55 -18.15 secs 27815488 BYtes for the highest compression -7.34 secs 30719266 BYtes for the fastest compression  here is a definaition for the subset on http://flac.sourceforge.net/format.html FLAC specifies a subset of itself as the Subset format. The purpose of this is to ensure that any streams encoded according to the Subset are truly "streamable", meaning that a decoder that cannot seek within the stream can still pick up in the middle of the stream and start decoding.  And here the most intereting point is : apodization , which means taperring or trimming. A little more googling shows that apodization is clearing the residual parts of the bel curve berlow a predefind level More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apodization_function which sown also various functions Info on the linear predictor: FLAC uses a class of computationally-efficient fixed linear predictors (for a good description, see audiopak and shorten). FLAC adds a fourth-order predictor to the zero-to-third-order predictors used by Shorten. Since the predictors are fixed, the predictor order is the only parameter that needs to be stored in the compressed stream. The error signal is then passed to the residual coder.
IN this and the following articles you will find som measurenemts for the encoders used with bonk: first let me advise you the method i used for measuring 1. For the times measurements : Used - A song from a CD of 2.26 mins ripped directly . I order no to damage the CD i then ripped it to WAV format -a stop watch unit from DS clock, a simple visual (and free )clock program , with .01 sec accuracy. most of the results have +/- 0.15 secs tolerance - Snagit one of the oldest capturing programs for capturing part of the screen - After snagit was started capturing i start the stop watch and then bonkenc - After Bonkenc ended its task , i stopped the timer and then the capturing - i then measure the bars progressing and do the time subraction Here is a video with the above methodology >>> 2. For the sprectrum measurememnts A WAV file is first made with white noise of one minute duration on 44000 Hz and 16 bit -then is converted in all formats , compression levels and quality adjustments and named accordinly (LAM/98/5 for example ) .Though Audacity is one solution for making the WAV file , Cooledit (a very old version) is still my most preferable for allthe next measurements. Then : For the mp3s : - the file is dragged into Cooledit marked for about 15 -20 secs then scanned from the spectrum analysis window for the RMS values via a relatively big sampling rate ie 2048 or 4096 and 'calculating the curve into text' For files not supported by Cooledit : -conversion via Bonk to WAV -draging into Cooledit and then using the above method Though i do not think that this method is flawy , if soemone has any claims plase let me know And a short description of my computer system: Pentium PC with 3 GHZ 768 MB 80GB HArd disk
LAME ( Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder!!!) For me Lame is the most interesting converter that has a ton of adjustments best for the very geeky , a much higher level than myself who is mostly to the audio response level . http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=LAME The lame encoder has too many parameters to use . the most important for me is the quality item that can convert from just 4 secs for the worst quality to 25 secs for the better quality. IN this paramter i prever to use the highest possible number - usually 3 and 2 - inorder to have the best audio quality - though mine ears do not find any significant diference . There are also several presets as medium (VBR), standard , extreme, insane , adn their fast versions R3mix and ABR All except ABR do not uncover their presets. ABR standsas for automatic bitrate ans is shown in the VBR tab However the documentataion reveals this info: -preset medium > V4 rh -preset fast medium > v4 mrh -preset standard > v2rh -preset fast standard >v2mrh - preset extreme v0 - preseet fast extremev 0 - preset insane C320 The bitrate can be from 8 to 320 to preset numbers ( 8, 16, 24, 32 , 40 48 56 64 80 96 112 128 144 160 192 224 256 and 320) There is also a size ratio. in uncomon numbers as 90! the resulted file is deleted immediately after the conversion. The quality rate is soemthing for me very interesting . Quality zero means here the best quality (therefore the highest time for encoding ) and 9 the lowest quality (and very fast ) Beofre going on with the other tabs let me show my results in ripping /converting from CD and WAV onto MP3: or song of 2.26 min (146 sec) at CBR on 128 kb CD wav at 0 > 1.13.67 1.12.72 ie the half !!! 1 > 0.39.50 39.00 nearly the half of 0 2 > 0.33.06 30.12 3 > 0.19.06 17,13 4 > 0.18.94 16,63 5 > 0.17.81 15,28 6 > 0.17.19 14,63 7 > 0.12.13 9,82 8 > 0.12.19 10,16 9 > 0.08.46 5,29 LAME COMPRESSIONS on 128kbps
Here is per compression rate at CBR times in secs 320 kb 17.06 14.1 256 16,63 14.17 192 16,25 13,84/13.66 128 17,91 15.47 96 18,75 16.41 48 16.44 14,5 -- 24 9,35 7.16 requires adj to output sampling rate 8 8.47 6,38 requires adj to output sampling ratethe two latest formats require downsampling (audio processng )in order to perform the coversion , usaually on 8 or 11 kHz And here is a test based graphical analysis of the most common CBR rates:
256 20 kHz
192 19kHz practically this bandwidth (B/W) means a store level
128-9 22kHz!!
128-5 19
128-0 19 kHzthe worst quality level due to speed offers a artificial whole b/w level . the other quality levels offer a Cd quality
112/9 22kHz !! 112/5 19 kHz 112/0 19 kHz the same as above
96/9 22 kHz distorted! 96/5 19 kHz 96-9 19 kHz curved down by 3 db
64-0 8k @-3 max to 18 kHz 64-5 18 k linear 64-9 22k! linear and here is the funny: the best quality cuts freqs above the 8 kHz though the wirrst modes ofer a 'transparent' quality
Lame 48 0 10 kHz Lame 48 5 17 khxz Lame 48 9 22 kHz!!
16-9 6 kHz @-3 8 khzoff 16-5 5 k ,6k @-3 8 K off 16-0 1.7kHz @-3 4.5 kHz coffonce again the numers show narroweer audio for the best encoding !! == ENCODER  And above LAME shows its more important characteristics the two variable rates . for a better explanation i lend the info from the wiki of LAME as foun in the site of Hydrogen audio: CBR: the standard constant bit rate constant bitrate mode. CBR encoding is not efficient. Whereas VBR and ABR modes can supply more bits to complex music passages and save bits on simpler ones, CBR encodes every frame at the same bitrate. CBR is only recommended for usage in streaming situations where the upper bitrate must be strictly enforced. VBR: this is the variable bit rate variable bitrate mode. Use variable bitrate modes when the goal is to achieve a fixed level of quality using the lowest possible bitrate. VBR is best used to target a specific quality level, instead of a specific bitrate. The final file size of a VBR encode is less predictable than with ABR, but the quality is usually better. Unlike other MP3 encoders which do VBR encoding based on predictions of output quality, LAME's default VBR method tests the actual output quality to ensure the desired quality level is always achieved. rh adn mrth are two dierent algorithms.Mrth offers abou two times faster processing ABR: average bitrate mode.
A compromise between VBR and CBR modes, ABR encoding varies bits around a specified target bitrate. Use ABR when you need to know the final size of the file but still want to allow the encoder some flexibility to decide which passages need more bits AS shown above in the photo , VBR can be asjusted in tbetween minimums and maximums
misc  The misc tab determines some usual MP3 standards as copy right bits rtc but en/disables padding on frames ISO compliance : This refers mostly for the MP3 harware players , in order for the resulted file to be compaliant to the MP3 standard (compatibility problems) padding : a patch expert tab:  thisis possibly the most dificult setting with the explanation from other pages : ATH : absolute threshold of hearing Temporal masking effect Audio processing  This pane is the easiest for me and the simplest comparing to other more 'advanced' adjustments ! There are the standard resample rates of 8 ,11 22 44 and 48 kHz , the first two necessary for the lower bit ratets to operate. Enabling filtering can make you remove some frequencies or determine a whole bandwidth to cut For better undersitanding it is better to experiment a bit with them . Notice that lowpass filter must be bigger number than the low pass frequency !!
.........and reconverting your MP3s into another forrmat ........... A REVIEW The program has been found i think in the freewaregenius web site (together with mediacoder , toibe reviewed later here ) several months ago, bvased on a very short review, which normally acts as a shell program for several freeware /open source audio codecs. The program can be found in the adress http://www.bonkenc.org and includes the latest two versions , together with two extra plug ins. The most curent is 107 ONce you download the program the screening is shown as below:  The program has the following specifications: - is totally free and comes with its source - it can be just unzipped into a folder and work . Thefore it is a green program - There are various language translations including a program that handles translation fields - Connectivity with CDDB for automatic album naming (if avaialble ) - automatic ripping after a CD is inserted and recognized (setable) The latest colleciton i converted has been totally found from the CDDB databqase - about 5 conversion systems FLAC, Blade , Lame ,Ogg, AAC and its own Bonk - auto titling based on the information of the artist and title given , including the ID3 info saved - mass ID3 saving - CD /file operations: playback and insert/escape button shown below the web adress - also facility to manually update - via the help menu - plug ins for in- and out-put a very interesting point is that the program allows you not only to add the ID tags (ID 1 and 2 ) but also - set the case letters towards: each word in lower or in upper cases , - set the tag for all the songs included in ripping - set a spscial label for the music kind Here are several screenshots from its settings: here is just the encoders settings. As you may see there is also a filename naming pattern  And another settings view for playlists . There is the ability to use cue sheets  And here you will find some screeshots for the encoding abilities . As you may see Fraunhofer FhG and WMA codec are missing . I think this is because FhG codec is commercial .....WAVE OUT as show in the picture comes fromta export plugin .Blade enc is a optional codec that can be found in the program's site that has several peculiar conversion specs .All codecs here are freeeware modules.  In the next pages you will find in depth (as posible ) reports on the codecs and their operations includeing more pictures  Here are several imprtant notice from my usage for about 2 months  The ID3 tags : upon the preset format , they can be shown OK to Wianamp, Windows explorer and sevreal ID tagging programs but in seeral others not . the proble consisted onthe UTF 16LE . Setting to ISO encoding the porblem has been solved Cons I found two types of crashes: - The program crashed when resizing the time Bonk was converting - several dragged /dropped MP3s also made it crash. I donot know what is the problem with these MP3 files . But dropping their directories into Bonkencs' file window there was not problem In the next pages you will see a description of the encoding schemes =================================================
Does anyone know this song? At first it seems to me as clone of bila rindu of Siti fairuz first heard and recorded on ca 90-91 from shortwaves , Suara Malaysia, though I am not sure if it is older or newer . when I was in spore on 2000 the chairman of the music store advised me that tge singer is Melati. But as I have already heard Melati’s voice, I amk sure this is not her voice in this song. In contrast to it this song seems too ‘weepy’ also in music terms
Can anyone shed light ?
WARNING : very low quality
Here is a oversimplified listing of the MP3 compressions :Notice that as the number in the left pane is higher , the higher the filter and thus higher fidelity audio. The higher numbers can offer the abilities or the lower numbers too. Notice: The program used is Music match jukebox that offers the curves shown in http://zlgr.multiply.com/reviews/item/22
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kbps
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approximate usage -
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8 - 11 kbps
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suitable for recording telephonic conversations , voice recording . narrowband AM radio
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16
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the above plus high fidelity speech, AM radio, low fidelity streaming radio
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24- 32kbps
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high quality speech , AM radio [medium and shortwaves ]
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44-56
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low fidelity FM radio
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64
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older fidelity
FM radio
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96-128
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CD
quality audio
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192
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CD quality -
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256
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'Store'
mode for CD quality
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and for WMA - fior anyone interested
, as tested with Musicmatch
Jukebox . For me mostly
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5-8-12
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just
simple voice recording
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16-22
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high quality
speech recording , 22 seems as HIFI
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44
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good
for FM
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48
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CD audio
compromise , best for mass storage
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64
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CD
recording = 128 on MP3
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96
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'high quality'
CD recording =192 on MP3
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And notice the following:
The above listing is still controversial and depends on the
program and codecs you
use. Older lame
codec [used in goldwave
] does not offer the same
audio quality
and several comments on windows media wma files:
- offering lower dynamic range : they can clip very low
voices
- on hardware players :
- they can drain the double current .
- in most older MP3 players i tested ,
the WMA codec can offer better audio than its MP3
codec||
- the wma codec may introduce its own
noise with
'cracks' in sudden audio changes or in loud points.
| Category: | Computers & Electronics | | Product Type: | Other | | Manufacturer: | MP3 Surgeon |
THis is my best program to split big Mp3 files into song files.
The program has been bought via their intermediate 'registernow', as mp3surgeon.co.uk just offers a test version capable up to 5MB which is OK for very low bit rates [ie up to 32kb for about 1 hour of audio ] and its last version is of 2004
Here i will describe you how i can split the file recorded from a cassette into my computer
First say that we are using the full version of this program . Once started and a tape side loaded into it, it shows this way :

In the main screen you see as like 5 thick PIs : These are the main songs graphically as they could be shown in a ‘volume tracer’ . In between them there are some very narrow ‘notches’ that show the blank audio parts.
At the bottom of the big graph there are two markers that can be slipped. Once a marker is slipped the smaller screen at the bottom right also 'slips' it. AT the above right there are zoom levels. The highest zoom over zooms to milliseconds.. Here is how the left marker is pointed on the start of the first song of the tape.

At the left up there is a button add , meaning 'adding a marker'. pressing on this the marker goes here

I then slip the marker towards the end of the song and see the how accurately is on the smaller 'nudge' screen. I then test for the blank by moving the nudge and test audio from the playback 
Then I add a new maerker for determining the start of the new song checking to have very short blank audio before the song

And continue until all songs have start and end marker
I then choose to save the spilt MP3s

then follow the guidance of the program .

As you see the program will precede a part ## before the name of the file for easier view
 And the above picture shows if we wish to add ID 3 tags . As it was a test recording , I put test for both

And now the above picture shows if we need normalization , automatic or a fixed volume. I prefer to use them in the default normalization. Ther is also the ability to fade in [on the start of the song ]and fade out [on the end of the song ] and for how much time

After that the process starts and for the 25 MB file it can do it in about 10 seconds
For the shake of simplicity I have saved everything on same directory . adjusting the file browser into extended listing with file sorting . as you may see all these resulted MP3 files have a prefix of part## . The odd files are small , containing only noise, while the even are relatively big from 3-5 MB and are our songs
This is all
BY this way I am very sure that nothing recorded from the cassette will be lost and the blank part will be removed correctly
Add: The program offers several other important features
- Mp3 joiner : it joins several parts into one file - MP3 to wav converter - batch mode : for mp3 files normalization including changing ID3 v1+2 tags and fade in /out effects - mp3catalog : a file the lists all files on a directory, in a text , csv [comma separated excel type ]of html file , including or not the ID data And once again I determine myself for using all these tracks in order to playlist my collection
For any more questions please write below
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There were several bad links .Please read it again as the pictures are now corectly shown
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Given that many users on Multiply rip or covert their music in quite big files of over 7.5 MB fr a 4 minute song ,i decided to write this article to explain why it is not necessary to use very high sampling rates.
At same time I will notice to you why I use the WMA format in 48 kbps to include mass material into a small MP3 player as shown in my previous reviews
It is important to advise you that I was in the audio technology and HiFi's since 1980 , including also the MP3 tech form ca 1997 and my first ever MP3 player was with CD on 2000.Also i used several professional equipment the older days and I know very much about it.
And here is the basic background for the above theory .
1.Make a file with white noise . This noise is used primarily for testing purposes in audio laboratories. it can be used to measure the linearity of audio systems including the audio part of radio transmitters. The easiest way to make this white noise is with the Cooledit program. For best measurements i made a file of 60 secs making a file of 10M336B [10336 Kb]I also deliberately use the linear frequency response in order to find more easily the cutoff frequencies than with the standard logarithmic freq response
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This is our original WAV file's frequency response , designed
from a white noise of 0 db level. As you may notice it is a totally linear, and will be used as reference to the
results from various compressions shown later |
2.Convert the files toMP3 and /or WMA in the most popular conversions . I choose the MP3 format on 128 [standard]192 [broadcast mode ] and 256kb [store mode] while for WMA the 44 [FM] ,. 48[I say just CD] 64 [default near CD ]and 96 [CD ] kb.
I always used the Musicmatch Jukebox in its 6th version which is very light comparing to the newest versions and has very good results especially if converting from CDs and MPs to WMAs . And though Cooledit has MP3 save option
3.View the resulted files back to Coledit's frequency analysis screen :
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256
kb
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As
you will see
the 256 kb sampling rate offers a very high audio bandwidth of ca 21
kHz filtering out everything above this
frequency ,with more than 60 db cut off .But these cut off frequencies
are inaudible to the ear ..
Tthe file size is 1876 KBytes |

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192kb
The curve here goes to the 20 kHz , and
about 60
db cutoff above these frequencies. This is the
maximum the
ear can listen The file size is 1407 Kb |
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128
kb
And here is the standard MP3
with strong cutoff above 15.900 Hz . I do not see any significant difference
between 128 and 192 in my ears though still 112 with a cut
off at 14000 and 96 kb at 12000 sound nearly the same
The file size is 938 kb on the 128kb |
WMA s in
discussion
AS Cooledit cannot open WMA files , i used first a
third
party program to convert the WMA files iinto WAV and then
opened
with Cooledit , and here are the results :
 48 kbps |
48 64 and 96 kb
Here all the WMA files have the same audio bandwidth at 20 kHz with the
only difference on the dynamic level. , |
 64 kbps |
The dynamic level is ca 36db , for the 48 kb , ca 40 db for the 64 kb
and ca 55 db for the 96 kb compression. The 40 db are the audio levels used by most music groups. More than 60 db are used only by classical music
And the file sizes are 367,484 and 718 kB respectively . IN practice that
means that all these modes can offfer just high quality audio though very low audio levels are 'removed' . |
 96 kbps |
In
a very careful
listening you
can see some minor artifacts on the 48 kbps especially in
drums
and high trebled audio. |
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And here a
funny case of
the 44 kb WMA.
Instead of having a smooth cuve , that reminds a
triple 'treble
control' , a part of the bandwidth is somehow cut out
However
this happens with
the MMJB 6 . Using
another converter as for example the MP3WM OGG converter, the results
are also diferent . The results in the MP3 conversion showed
me a
flat bandwidth for 128 to
256 to 22000
with 96kb having -6db on 16000max .while the WMA compressions
rates were showed as a bandstop filter analogous to
the compression rate ...
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Furthermore these are the results with the over mentioned program . I
mean , using a different program to
convert files gives a different
result
AS for example Cooleditwith its MP3 plugin ca offer linear
response to the maximum of the bandwidth.
At another example i was also using the ACE mult iformat converter . The
results once opened or converted to WAV (for WMA) have made several
interesting results . Please see the
picture below, it is an animation!
From the above results , it is clear that ACE can technically offer better audio than MMJB on the MP3 format , but worse than MMJB in te WMA format
You can find on the enclosed PDF file
Attachment: WLF-comp.pdf
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The above numeral seems not to correspond with any MP3 model found in the internet so I suppose it is named by our local importer. Two weeks ago we were the intermedaite to sugegst for a project that includes playback of speeches. I was a little disappointed that the local store did not make any deduction ever for such number… Its street price is just Eu 35
Its box uses a built in magnet for the opening-closure of the box. The player is put inside a b black plastic foil as shown in the picture .Under the plastic foil you can find two operating instructions booklets, a USB to Chinese mini-USB cable a mini CD and a battery.
As you may see the model is quite sporty in contrast to our use. The cord includes a mini compass as ‘bonus‘. The battery is drained by the time.
The model requested was 256 MB. AS it will be used speeches, it does not require standard MP3 levels.I tested today that for talks or speeches, just 16 kb on WMA (using Winamp) are enough! 22 kb WMA are sufficient for near-to-FM quality.
And here you will find a summary after using with sample files for about 2 hours
1. Greek as well Chinese letters in the mp3 name cannot be correctly shown.THis comes in contrast with its surely Chinese origin! In all these 3 cases the corresponding ASCIi roman character set waas shown.
2. Languages used are modern and traditional Chinese English German French Dutch and Korean 3. Its earphones have bad curving: middle tones are enhanced, comparing to mine Degen 929 earphones 4. Comparing to other MP3s the audio is a little bassy 5. FM radio: has better sensitivity over Sansa E130. Also it has better audio response over Sansa 130 ….seemsa as simeilar to my degen 828
Spectrum analysis of pink noise files showed the following results: -MP3 128 is linear, till 18.1 kHz (MP3 128 bandwidth) -WMA 48 (the highest compromise for 44 kHz) was also linear to 18.1 kHz curved then up to 20.1 kHz then dropped to zero the resulted noise however was much distorted. -WMA 64 was with the same curve as WMA 48 but better audio Based on this , the player plays music exactly ‘as is’. But mixing WMA and MP3s together can cause the player to crash and reboot…..For this reason, i converted all MP3 files into WMA.
Recording: it has 4 setting but all of them are very low quality. I could neither use it for voice recording . Winamp shown 32 kb/8 kHz for the best setting. .
Transfer speeds: about 1 MB/sec, using watch
As by result the MP3 player is quite good for radio and has better audio over my others but lacks good quality recording. 
Songs recorded in between 90 and 93 from shortwaves with low - nearly telephonic audio and radio interferences (whistles , cracks etc.) . All files are very small <500 Kb each updated on 6-2
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